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AWP Vs. Scout
Speed Vs. Power
Posted 12 months ago
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AWP Vs. Scout

Discuss.
(Don't flame or flame bait)



My opinion:
AWP is better, a skilled player will rarely be caught off guard and will be able to stop and shoot, it isn't like it takes too long to pause and shoot with the AWP anyway. The scout isn't as accurate as you'd like to think while running neither. Nor is it all that much faster at shooting. The scouts rate of fire is regardless anyway, one awp shot will take down anybody with a scout. You could argue a skilled scout player can aim for the head, but that does not matter, that would mean, for the argument to be fair, the awper would have to be just as skilled. So it'd end up with two players shooting each other in the head simultaneously. In which case the awp would win as the bullet travels faster in CS:S. (Yes bullets have a speed in-game).
The AWP can also wall-bang through thick surfaces that the scout cannot penetrate.

EDIT:

The running speed hardly matters, most pro players will know when to have a pistol out. And any pistol only runs 10 units slower than the scout.
And out of an entire professional game you wont see any rushes that rely on where you spawn and how fast you get to the bomb site.
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12 months ago



Sexual assault rifle
To me anyone with an awp is a tank while anyone with scout is a ninja.

EDIT: ahh yes anyone with a deagle is a ninja-tank

12 months ago



Faithless.
I prefer the scout, since you move so fast with it.

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12 months ago



I TURN MAH PC TO DA SIDE
Wait, I never knew bullets had speed in game.

12 months ago



welcome to NZ
I prefer the awp. awping nana on ferno is so wicked with a T rush

12 months ago



Need Demonoid invite will pay
Posted by Be[NZ]ine.

I prefer the awp. awping nana on ferno is so wicked with a T rush

ur nub with sniper <3

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12 months ago



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Oh and...

AWPs can do this...




12 months ago



Banned
AWP over scout anyday.

In competitive gameplay, you need that power that the AWP provides.

12 months ago



welcome to NZ
Posted by KaT_FisH

Oh and...

AWPs can do this...





holy triple headshot on mill. nice find. seen that in surreal or source connection forgot which one, but didnt want to post a whole movie for the sake of a 3 second shot.

12 months ago



welcome to NZ
Posted by DJuke

Posted by Be[NZ]ine.

I prefer the awp. awping nana on ferno is so wicked with a T rush

ur nub with sniper <3


mind the doubleposting.

if turtills realized he was coming to our server for a WAR not to slut for us I woulda showed you my o for owesome sniping skills =O

12 months ago



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Could you guys shut the fuck up and get back to the topic please?
(Be[NZ]ine & DJuke)

12 months ago



www.razerfinland.arkku.net
I know the benefits of AWP but I`ve never been so good with it, nowhere near as with scout.
Being able to move faster, buy it with way more cheaper price and a little faster reloading time with scout is handy but if it`s true clan war, I wouldn`t take the chance of facing AWP with better reactions. So my final statement, I`ll think about this later, ok? =)

12 months ago



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I'm quite good with both weapons.

In my opinion the scout will always be better.
It does not have a 1 hit kill like the awp. But it does kill with a headshot.
With enough practice it's not that hard to get a headshot with a scout.

Awp is heavy.
It's slow reload.
And in my opinion it's too easy to sit somewhere and wait for someone to pop out and shoot him once.

12 months ago



I like Zombies :D
Posted by KaT_FisH

Oh and...

AWPs can do this...




3in1? Awesome... I had only 2in1 3 or 4 times ^^

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12 months ago



The Waxy one
Awp will always and forever dominate the scout. and the awp is NOT a noob weapon, if you think so go to a serious awp_india server and watch all the "noobs" kill each other and try and get a kill.

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12 months ago



The shape that lives.
I used scout for a while a couple of months ago and I preferred it to AWP, but I've definately changed my mind. In matches doorbanging is an amazing advantage. I find that with an AWP I have a certain flow which for some reason I lack when using a scout.

It's makes me feel more secure when using it.

The downside to the AWP is that on a lot of nub servers people complain about you using AWPs. :(






12 months ago



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I prefer the scout for the following reasons

1 : its fast reloading after each shot (not mentioning the 3 to 1 or q quick switch bug that valve never want to fix it)

2 : you can run fast after each shot and the enemy wont know where did you shot from

3 : headshots all the way even though it doesnt have powerful penetration.

4 : it somehow have less recoil???


12 months ago



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Posted by Crimson_SoulZ

I prefer the scout for the following reasons

1 : its fast reloading after each shot (not mentioning the 3 to 1 or q quick switch bug that valve never want to fix it)

2 : you can run fast after each shot and the enemy wont know where did you shot from

3 : headshots all the way even though it doesnt have powerful penetration.

4 : it somehow have less recoil???



1. Who needs to fire more than 10 shots in a professional game? No need to reload...
And after each shot it isn't faster, you can easily quick switch with an awp.

2. If you are playing against a decent player they'd instantly know where you are.

3. The headshot argument is moot. Not even professional players hit the enemy in the head every single time. It is easier to shoot a player in the chest to kill them, the awp outshines the scout by a mile in this case.

4. Less recoil? If you mean that you can noscope or run and shoot easier with it, sure that much is true, but why would you want to? The snipers role in a team is to be a strong steady player not the first player in.

12 months ago



Suspended By The Throat.
You can't really say one is better than the other, it depends solely on the map in my opinion. A map with very little camping spots will favour the scout but a map with heaps will favour the awp. You can't really say one is better than the other, it's like comparing soccer and football. They are both good. XD

12 months ago



Sonic Boom!
I can point and shoot anywhere on the map with an AWP and kill someone.

It's like Jesus guides my bullets to an enemies head.

12 months ago



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Posted by ascentyx

You can't really say one is better than the other, it depends solely on the map in my opinion. A map with very little camping spots will favour the scout but a map with heaps will favour the awp. You can't really say one is better than the other, it's like comparing soccer and football. They are both good. XD


Name a single professionally played map that does not revolve around attacking/defending.

Defending: Needing to hold a bomb site, "camping".

12 months ago



Suspended By The Throat.
Posted by KaT_FisH

Posted by ascentyx

You can't really say one is better than the other, it depends solely on the map in my opinion. A map with very little camping spots will favour the scout but a map with heaps will favour the awp. You can't really say one is better than the other, it's like comparing soccer and football. They are both good. XD


When you said AWP vs SCOUT i assumed you were making a direct comparison, not a comparison only in professional maps. The point i'm trying to make is you can't say one is better. The awp can get more kills, but it costs more so this outweights its extra killing power.

Name a single professionally played map that does not revolve around attacking/defending.

Defending: Needing to hold a bomb site, "camping".


12 months ago



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Posted by ascentyx

Posted by KaT_FisH

Posted by ascentyx

You can't really say one is better than the other, it depends solely on the map in my opinion. A map with very little camping spots will favour the scout but a map with heaps will favour the awp. You can't really say one is better than the other, it's like comparing soccer and football. They are both good. XD


Name a single professionally played map that does not revolve around attacking/defending.

Defending: Needing to hold a bomb site, "camping".


When you said AWP vs SCOUT i assumed you were making a direct comparison, not a comparison only in professional maps. The point i'm trying to make is you can't say one is better. The awp can get more kills, but it costs more so this outweights its extra killing power.



Kills = Rounds = Cash

12 months ago



Suspended By The Throat.
Posted by KaT_FisH

Kills = Rounds = Cash


I know a large amount of players that are relatively shit with every weapon but the awp. How do they even manage to save up for it in the first place. Trust me, money is an important factor.

12 months ago



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Posted by ascentyx

Posted by KaT_FisH

Kills = Rounds = Cash


I know a large amount of players that are relatively shit with every weapon but the awp. How do they even manage to save up for it in the first place. Trust me, money is an important factor.


I guess you just know a large amount of shit players in general then.

12 months ago



Multipurpose
I think playing the Scout requires more skill, you are forced to aim for the head and keep running, because I prefer running while sniping. I still think the SIG550 is better, but that's not the issue.

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12 months ago



FML
Posted by WaXyDeAd

Awp will always and forever dominate the scout. and the awp is NOT a noob weapon, if you think so go to a serious awp_india server and watch all the "noobs" kill each other and try and get a kill.

Just because there are a lot of skilled awpers out there doesn't mean it isn't a cheap weapon and a noob tube on most servers.

Awps are the reason that I stopped playing regulr CS:S. Too many people on office rushing with awps.

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12 months ago



www.razerfinland.arkku.net
Posted by clownfart

Tbh, I think they need a mod to bring the shield to CSS. Thats what I think.

If it could shield from a awp bullet it would be so great add to the game.

12 months ago



The Waxy one
Posted by Darthfaceman

Posted by WaXyDeAd

Awp will always and forever dominate the scout. and the awp is NOT a noob weapon, if you think so go to a serious awp_india server and watch all the "noobs" kill each other and try and get a kill.

Just because there are a lot of skilled awpers out there doesn't mean it isn't a cheap weapon and a noob tube on most servers.

Awps are the reason that I stopped playing regulr CS:S. Too many people on office rushing with awps.


Then just play on a server with awp restricted or limited, there's PLENTY of them.(enough to make it a kind of fullish reason to quit playing.)

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12 months ago



Posted by Be[NZ]ine.

Posted by KaT_FisH

Oh and...

AWPs can do this...





holy triple headshot on mill. nice find. seen that in surreal or source connection forgot which one, but didnt want to post a whole movie for the sake of a 3 second shot.

The Funeral 2

AWP is better than the Scout hands down. The running speed really doesn't matter at all, the AWP is stronger yet does require skill as well. I hate it when people say Scout takes more skill than the AWP, but then again if the AWP is stronger - why even bother using a Scout? Of course, it costs less, but it's a lot weaker and I can ensure you that you're not even gonna stop an eco B rush on d2 with it.

12 months ago



"We walk with death."
AWP, because all it takes is one shot in the torso and they're down.

Oh and to that triple headshot video-Holy Shit.

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12 months ago



If anyone sells Ripe for points PM me!
Being honest and noobish, I'm saying an AWP for a surf map, as long as you dont camp like a [insert insulting word here]. But, a Scout for a normal map.

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12 months ago



I'm back, bitches.
Posted by sssnake

Wait, I never knew bullets had speed in game.

It's because they don't. In real life, of course they would, but not in game. If you look at the code, to shoot a bullet, it creates an invisible line from where you are and where you shot, sees if it was a player, if it was it does some damage. It's instantaneous.

12 months ago



Bananite
AWP is for clan wars, Scout is for showoffs.

/thread

12 months ago



This is your captain speaking...
Posted by Sneeza

Scout is best, simply because of the way that you can use it (more agile than the AWP).

Uhmm, what? Its the same way you use it...

*Buys, runs, aims, shoots, kills*

Where is the difference? I don't see it...
Oh, and AWP requires just as much skill as Scout IMO!

12 months ago



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Posted by Infy

Posted by sssnake

Wait, I never knew bullets had speed in game.

It's because they don't. In real life, of course they would, but not in game. If you look at the code, to shoot a bullet, it creates an invisible line from where you are and where you shot, sees if it was a player, if it was it does some damage. It's instantaneous.


The source engine has dynamic bullets. Look closely and you can see them moving around you, especially in HL2.




12 months ago



ETC not ECT
With such a thread title I would expect a poll.. Did you not add it for a reason? So the noobs wouldn't spam it with AWP votes? Please add a poll with voter revealing :P

12 months ago



Multipurpose
Well, those dynamic bullets aren't very special, use the AR2 (Pulse Rifle, in HL2), it's easy to see, but they aren't much more than yellow lines/stripes.

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12 months ago



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Posted by blerb

Posted by Infy

Posted by sssnake

Wait, I never knew bullets had speed in game.

It's because they don't. In real life, of course they would, but not in game. If you look at the code, to shoot a bullet, it creates an invisible line from where you are and where you shot, sees if it was a player, if it was it does some damage. It's instantaneous.


The source engine has dynamic bullets. Look closely and you can see them moving around you, especially in HL2.


Yep.
You can even check out the console command "bulletspeed".
Although you cannot modify it.

12 months ago



2 + 2 = Fish.
The awp takes major skill.

Actually, the awp and scout take the same skill... Anyone can run around shooting a gun, and hope to hit the target. But, it takes skilled people to be able to get that quick shot, for the kill. The awp, and the scout are the same. One on one, i think the scout would win, if the scout(er) can jump shoot, jump Fast. The awp would win if he just has to aim at one spot, and shoot.

12 months ago



I'm back, bitches.
Posted by KaT_FisH

Yep.
You can even check out the console command "bulletspeed".
Although you cannot modify it.

I just looked through the entire shooting function and no where does it have anything about dynamic bullets or anything that has a bullet speed.

12 months ago



Formerly PhatMan
Aren't you all forgetting a little thing called skill?
I play on servers with 0 autos and 0-1 awp restriction.

I believe bullets are hit-scan in CSS, meaning it's like a lazer, not an actual projectile, as opposed to BF2.

I think F-Zero is a pretty cool guy. eh falcn pawnches and doesn't afraid of anything!
12 months ago



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Posted by Infy

Posted by KaT_FisH

Yep.
You can even check out the console command "bulletspeed".
Although you cannot modify it.

I just looked through the entire shooting function and no where does it have anything about dynamic bullets or anything that has a bullet speed.


It's funny that, CS:S isn't even open source.
So how could you know what they use?
The code for CS:S could be different.

Either way, make a huge ass map, borrow a friends 1000fps server, set up sourceTV to record. Then fire at a target as far away as you possibly can and play it back as slow as you can.

That'll prove one of us right and one of us wrong.
To be fair, I'm not entirely sure of what the result will be.

12 months ago



Que?
Scout over AWP. Sure, the AWP is more powerful, but when it comes down to it, you only need that one shot out of either gun to kill the bad guys. I prefer scout for the speed and other timings - reload, draw, switch.


12 months ago



"To Be Forgotten, Is Worse Than Death"
I prefer the scout for its mobility... But I'm in cal BECAUSE of my AWP skills. Im pretty good at awping but scout for fun

To Be Forgotten, Is Worse Than Death
12 months ago



"Ideas are bulletproof"
Depends entirely on the situation, for a pure sniper, the AWM is better, you'll get a hs most of the time anyway but no worries if you miss.

the scout is better for an adaptive sniper, or a long range supprt man, by which i mean someone who can move around and take pot shots.

all in all... AWM is better for defending, scout is better for supporting an assault.


12 months ago



I'm back, bitches.
Posted by KaT_FisH

Posted by Infy

Posted by KaT_FisH

Yep.
You can even check out the console command "bulletspeed".
Although you cannot modify it.

I just looked through the entire shooting function and no where does it have anything about dynamic bullets or anything that has a bullet speed.


It's funny that, CS:S isn't even open source.
So how could you know what they use?
The code for CS:S could be different.

Either way, make a huge ass map, borrow a friends 1000fps server, set up sourceTV to record. Then fire at a target as far away as you possibly can and play it back as slow as you can.

That'll prove one of us right and one of us wrong.
To be fair, I'm not entirely sure of what the result will be.

I can go ask Tony Sergi if CSS has dynamic bullets. He's one of VALVe's programmers and answers a ton of questions on the Source SDK programming forums.

I know HL2 doesn't use dynamic bullets, but just little lines it creates now and then to make it look like bullets are traveling.

12 months ago



Bananite
Either way on d2 you can get a headshot and kill them through the door.... That's the main purpose in cal maps because if count who goes where , then you have the match set (strats)

12 months ago



You would...
Awp's are way better if you know how to use them. If you don't then stick with the scout.

I prefer awp.

12 months ago



Remember the good ol TF2 Days?
Posted by KaT_FisH

Oh and...

AWPs can do this...





Scouts can also do that. :D


12 months ago



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Posted by Live2bcool

Posted by KaT_FisH

Oh and...

AWPs can do this...





Scouts can also do that. :D




...Except that is 1.6 not CS:S.

Put your glasses on?

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