Go for the 8500GT but to tell you honestly, both those cards suck. I really suggest getting a 9600GT or at least get a 8600GT because the 8500 is not a gaming card.

What is this? A bulldozer race?

Don't spend under $100 and avoid 256MB. No, 256+256+SLI isn't 512.

If you really need to cheap it, at least get one of these. Otherwise, don't settle for anything slower than a 3850 because the price/perf is non-existant for those low-end cards.

Well whats your PSU?

Well i wanted to get a 400W one cuz i had a 8500gt in mind but thats probably gonna change and the case i want to get comes with 450W one but idk if i should trust the case power supply

Well you don't need a 450W for a X1950XTX.400W is enough.But why don't you chose a 9600GT ?the cheapest tat you can find on newegg is the PNY 9600GT for $145.

Lol. If you had access to a Fry's, they're selling the 8800gt for $140..... But then again I don't think a 400W PSU would cut it. I wouldn't pick the 8500gt..... I've seen even the 8600gt or the HD2600xt go cheaper.

It sounds like you are buying a new system, can we see a list of parts and a budget?

You can start looking around at parts and reviews now, but I wouldn't make any final plans on any components yet since things can change so fast.

That should work just fine, my 380W PSU could easily handle my power hog X2 5600+ and a X1950 Pro at the same time.

And without a doubt go for the X1950XTX, it beats the living snot out of the 8600. Honestly, it's like 80% faster.

Read my edit as well :p

I would go with nvidia . I have an 8800GTX but im selling it (if anyone wants it) and buying a XFX GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB $718

You think im better off with the 8800GTX ?

The X1950 Pro beats the snot out of the 8600. X1950XTX vs 8600 isn't even a contest.

How the fuck is the poll 32:10 for the 1950XTX? Kosai106, azagedon, Karathos, Fallqvist, AsianBorat, AbbelssiiNi, Massive., ch33s3, technicalbbq, UberSpy are clearly not people who should be giving any advice on computer hardware.

I just hate ATI.

I do not give a shit what that kid gets.

How that Radeon's card can be so cheap?? Are you sure that's the right one? I would choose that ATI's card. But if I could choose any model of those cards, then NVIDIA.

You don't make like any sense whatsoever

Right... We're the fools.

Tell you what people.
rather than constalntly repeating your selves 'OMG get a 8800 or yur card is tehs sucks'
dont post.
he's asking for one of two cards.
and saying 'oh that card sucks' what makes you think we are all spoilt ?
and will cards like the 8500 do perform well for the price.you just bitch because you have a more exspensive card.
woopee do.

I soon plan on upgrading too so, if all these fucking fan-boys and haters could shut the fuck up and give a professional opinion on what is the more effective choice the sooner you can help him, me and everyone else interested.

To tell yo uthe truth about these card you really should get any
only upgrade your card when you can not play a game that you have
but if so a 8800 gtx is near top for preformance and $$

The x1950 definitely has better performance, but the nvidia one is compatible with dx10.

Well, there's no doubt the 1950XTX beats the 8600's ass performance-wise.

I agree to that, but it is good enough to fully support Vista and play HD video. So it does have a small use.